Why 30 m of Water Doesn’t Require 30 m of Ice
Tim Daw
— sarsen.org — April 2026
Abstract
If the Fremington Clay was
deposited in a proglacial lake at approximately 30 m OD in the Taw–Torridge
valley, does that necessarily require an ice dam of equivalent or greater
height — and therefore thick onshore ice capable of depositing erratics at 80 m
on Baggy Point? This paper argues no. Drawing on well-documented modern
proglacial analogues from New Zealand, Svalbard, and Patagonia, it shows that
lake damming in high-sediment-load settings is routinely achieved by composite
ice-sediment barriers whose effective height far exceeds the thickness of the
ice itself. Applied to the Taw estuary, this model explains the Fremington lake
level without requiring the extensive onshore ice cover that a monolithic
ice-dam interpretation implies. The Ramson Cliff erratic at ~80 m OD remains
isolated and unexplained by this mechanism.
1. Introduction: The Ice Dam Height Problem
The Fremington Clay Series,
exposed along the south shore of the Taw–Torridge estuary in North Devon, has
been the subject of sustained debate since Maw (1864) first described its thick
sequence of stoneless clay, laminated silts, and basal gravels. Following the
influential work of Stephens (1966)[1] and the detailed
sedimentological study of Croot et al. (1996),[2] the consensus
interpretation has been that the upper, stoneless clay unit — sometimes called
the potter’s clay — was deposited in a proglacial lake dammed by an Irish Sea
ice lobe that impinged on Barnstaple Bay. Bennett et al. (2024)[3] broadly accept this model,
placing the lake surface at approximately 30 m OD.
A criticism raised against any
attempt to downplay the extent of Irish Sea ice in North Devon is that a 30 m
lake requires a dam of at least 30 m, and an ice dam must be topped by an ice
surface higher still. If the ice was that thick at the estuary mouth, runs the
argument, then it could easily have extended laterally to emplace the isolated
erratic found at ~80 m OD on Ramson Cliff, Baggy Point — making that erratic
unremarkable rather than anomalous.
This reasoning is intuitively
appealing but geomorphologically naïve. It conflates two distinct questions:
the local height of a barrier needed to impound water in a topographically
constricted valley, and the lateral extent and thickness of onshore ice required
to transport and deposit a grounded erratic on an exposed coastal headland
several kilometres to the west. This paper addresses the first question by
examining what modern proglacial analogues actually tell us about the mechanics
of ice-margin lake damming, and then considers the implications for the second.
2. The Fremington Proglacial Lake: Stratigraphy and Setting
The Fremington Clay Series
comprises a tripartite sequence: basal gravels containing both local Devonian
lithologies and far-travelled erratics, overlain by laminated silts and sands,
grading upward into the distinctive stoneless blue-grey clay that gives the
formation its name. Dropstones within the clay indicate the presence of
floating ice, and the overall fining-upward sequence is consistent with a
deepening lake environment. The full thickness of the deposit reaches
approximately 30 m in the type sections between Fremington and Penhill.
The lake model, as developed by
Croot et al. (1996) and refined by subsequent workers, envisages an Irish Sea
ice lobe advancing into or across Barnstaple Bay, blocking the combined
drainage of the Taw and Torridge rivers. No discrete terminal moraine has been
identified as the dam; the barrier is attributed to the ice lobe itself, with
minor overriding of lake sediments during a possible readvance phase. The
reconstructed lake surface of ~30 m OD is inferred from the upper limit of
lacustrine deposits and the topography of the valley.
2.1 The Bickington–Hele Ridge
An important but often
overlooked topographic feature is the Bickington–Hele ridge, a bedrock high on
the southern side of the valley that rises to approximately 55 m OD.[4] This ridge is not a
glacial constructional feature. It is formed by the underlying Devonian and
Carboniferous slates, shales, and sandstones, shaped by long-term differential
erosion. Several metres of sand and gravel containing erratic stones — the so-called
Hele gravels — cap the ridge and are generally interpreted as glaciofluvial
outwash deposited by meltwater associated with the same ice phase that
influenced the Fremington sequence.
In practical terms, the ridge
acted as a lateral confining feature on the southern margin of the lake. It
helped constrict the ponded area and contributed to maintaining the water
level, but it was not the primary dam. The northern barrier — blocking the
estuary — remained the ice lobe and whatever associated sediment accumulated
against it. This distinction between lateral confinement by pre-existing
topography and primary damming by an ice-margin barrier becomes critical when
assessing what kind of ice was actually needed.
3. Composite Ice-Sediment Dams: The Modern Evidence
The standard mental model of an
ice-dammed lake is a clean wall of glacier ice blocking a valley, with the lake
surface pressing directly against the ice face. In this model, the dam height
is simply the ice thickness, and the ice surface must exceed the lake surface
to prevent overtopping. This is the model implicitly invoked in the Fremington
debate.
Modern proglacial geomorphology
shows that this clean-ice model is the exception rather than the rule. In most
settings where glaciers interact with rivers carrying significant sediment
loads, the actual barrier is a composite structure: ice, outwash gravel,
glaciofluvial sand, debris flows, and — in marine-terminating cases —
subaqueous fans. The effective dam height is the combined elevation of all
these components, not the ice thickness alone.
3.1 The New Zealand Last Glacial Maximum: Outwash Fan-Head Damming
The most comprehensive modern
analogue comes from the Southern Alps of New Zealand, where Sutherland et al.
(2019)[5] reconstructed the
ice-contact proglacial lake systems associated with the Last Glacial Maximum
across the entire mountain range. Their central finding is that the major LGM
lakes — Tekapo, Pukaki, Ohau, Wanaka, Hawea, and Wakatipu — were not dammed
primarily by moraine ridges or by monolithic ice barriers, but by outwash
fan-heads: massive aggradational gravel bodies built by high-sediment-load
braided rivers against and around the ice margin.
The mechanism is
straightforward. New Zealand’s Southern Alps glaciers during the LGM were
characterised by extremely high rates of subglacial erosion and sediment
production, fed by rapidly uplifting Torlesse Terrane greywacke. Rivers
draining from the ice margins carried enormous bedloads. Where these rivers
encountered the glacier terminus, they could not maintain their gradient, and
deposited vast outwash fans that aggraded against the ice front. The fan
surfaces built up to and above the level of the ice terminus, creating a
sedimentary barrier that contributed directly to lake impoundment.
Sutherland et al. (2022)[6] developed this model in
detail at Lake Tekapo, where the glacier terminus was entirely buried by the
outwash fan-head, with no terminal moraine visible as a discrete landform. The
‘moraine’ at Tekapo is in fact a subdued ridge coalesced into the fan surface.
The dam that created the lake — which persists today, long after the ice
vanished — was the sedimentary mass itself. Shulmeister et al. (2019)[7] provide wider context,
noting that this pattern is typical across the western South Island, where high
sediment supply from the actively eroding Alps overwhelmed the capacity of
terminal moraines to form as distinct features.
The key insight for the
Fremington debate is that these New Zealand lakes stood at substantial depths
behind barriers whose ice component was only a fraction of the total dam
height. Once the ice melted, the lakes persisted — Tekapo, Pukaki, and Ohau still
exist today — held in by the residual sediment mass. The ‘permanence’ of the
lakes, as Sutherland et al. put it, derives from the sediment, not the ice.
3.2 High-Arctic Svalbard: Rapid Infilling and Stabilisation
A second class of evidence
comes from High-Arctic Svalbard, where Strzelecki et al. (2017)[8] documented the life cycle
of a small ice-dammed lake at the Nordenskiöldbreen glacier margin between 1990
and 2012. The lake formed when the glacier retreated and dammed a tributary
valley, but within approximately two decades it was almost completely infilled
by a Gilbert-type fan delta advancing from the sediment-laden tributary stream.
What is relevant here is not
the infilling per se, but the process: fluvial sediment rapidly aggraded
against the ice barrier, building a composite dam whose crest exceeded the ice
surface in places. The effective barrier height fluctuated as sediment accumulated,
eroded, and redistributed. At no point was the dam a simple wall of ice with a
measurable freeboard; it was a dynamic, composite structure in which ice and
sediment alternately dominated.
The Svalbard case demonstrates
that this process operates even at very small scales and over very short
timescales. In a Pleistocene setting with larger ice volumes, greater sediment
supply, and longer duration, the composite damming effect would be amplified.
3.3 Perito Moreno, Patagonia: Ice, Debris, and Dynamic Water Levels
The Perito Moreno Glacier in
southern Patagonia provides perhaps the most dramatic modern example of
composite damming. The glacier periodically advances across a narrow strait to
dam Brazo Rico, a branch of Lago Argentino, raising its water level by up to 20
m above the main lake before catastrophic drainage ensues. The damming
mechanism involves not just the ice front but a complex assemblage of
subaqueous moraine, calved debris, and sediment redistributed by currents and
waves against the ice face.
Crucially, the lake level in
Brazo Rico during damming episodes rises well above what the subaerial ice
thickness at the narrow strait would predict, precisely because the underwater
and debris-armoured components of the barrier contribute to the effective seal.
Leakage occurs not by overtopping but by subglacial drainage when the hydraulic
head exceeds the ice overburden pressure — a process described in the broader
GLOF (glacial lake outburst flood) literature by Carrivick & Tweed (2013).[9]
3.4 A General Principle
These three examples — from a
temperate maritime mountain belt, a High-Arctic archipelago, and a Patagonian
ice field — illustrate a general principle that has been well established in
the proglacial lake and GLOF literature but has not been applied to the
Fremington debate: in any setting where rivers carry significant sediment loads
to an ice margin, the resulting dam is composite rather than monolithic. The
effective barrier height is the sum of ice thickness, aggraded outwash, moraine
material, and subaqueous sediment, not the ice alone.
Carrivick et al. (2022)[10] synthesise this principle
in their review of coincident glacier and lake evolution across the Southern
Alps, showing that sediment flux is as important as ice dynamics in determining
lake existence, extent, and longevity. In their analysis, ice-marginal lakes
are fundamentally sedimentary features as much as they are glaciological ones.
4. Application to the Taw Estuary
With this framework in place,
consider the specific conditions of the Taw–Torridge system at the time the
Fremington Clay was deposited.
4.1 Sediment Supply from a Periglacial Hinterland
The Taw and Torridge drain
catchments that include the northern margins of Dartmoor and the extensive
periglacial plateau surfaces of Exmoor. Evans et al. (2012)[11] describe Dartmoor during
Pleistocene cold stages as an independent ice cap with extensive periglacial
slopes generating clitter fields, solifluction mantles, and thick head
deposits. Edmonds (1972)[12] documents the terrace
stratigraphy of the Taw valley, recording multiple episodes of fluvial
aggradation consistent with high-sediment-load braided river systems.
This is a critical observation.
The rivers feeding the Fremington lake basin were not clear-water streams
draining stable, vegetated catchments. They were periglacial braided rivers
with extremely high bedload transport rates, carrying gravel, sand, and silt
derived from frost-shattered bedrock, solifluction deposits, and reworked older
drift. The analogy with New Zealand’s high-sediment-load glacial rivers is
direct and compelling: these are exactly the conditions under which outwash
fan-heads build against ice margins.
4.2 The Composite Dam Model for Fremington
Applying the composite dam
model to the Taw estuary, the scenario runs as follows. An Irish Sea ice lobe
advances into Barnstaple Bay, blocking the combined outflow of the Taw and
Torridge. The ice margin need not be a towering cliff; a modest, debris-charged
lobe grounding in the relatively shallow waters of the inner bay would suffice.
As the rivers back up, sediment-laden flow deposits outwash fans against the
upstream (southern) face of the ice barrier. Gravel and sand aggrade rapidly,
building fan-head surfaces that supplement the ice and raise the effective dam
height.
The Fremington Clay itself
arguably records this process. The basal gravels — containing both local and
far-travelled lithologies — represent the initial outwash phase, when coarse
bedload was deposited in a proglacial setting. The overlying laminated silts
and sands record a transitional phase as the basin deepened and the dam became
more effective, trapping finer sediment. The uppermost stoneless clay
represents full lacustrine conditions, with suspension settling of the finest
fraction in a quiet, deep-water environment. Dropstones from floating ice
derived from the margin punctuate this otherwise tranquil record.
In this model, the 30 m lake
surface does not require 30 m of solid ice. It requires a composite barrier —
ice plus aggraded sediment plus debris — whose combined crest reached or
exceeded 30 m OD at the topographically constricted estuary mouth. The pre-existing
Bickington–Hele ridge at ~55 m OD provided lateral confinement on the southern
side, preventing the lake from draining southward. The ice component of the dam
may have been substantially less than 30 m thick, supplemented by the very
outwash and debris that the Fremington sequence itself records.
4.3 Consistency with the Sedimentary Record
This interpretation is not ad
hoc. The fining-upward sequence of the Fremington Clay Series — basal gravels
to laminated silts to stoneless clay — is precisely what the outwash fan-head
model predicts. In the New Zealand analogues, Sutherland et al. (2022) describe
ice-contact lakes with identical stratigraphic signatures: coarse outwash at
the base grading upward into laminated lacustrine fines as the sediment trap
becomes more effective and the lake deepens. The Fremington Clay is the
sedimentary product of the process that created its own dam.
This self-reinforcing dynamic —
in which the lake deposits contribute to the barrier that impounds the lake —
is a standard feature of composite ice-sediment dams. It means that the dam
grows in effectiveness over time without requiring any increase in ice
thickness. A modest ice lobe that initially created a shallow, gravel-floored
pond could, through progressive outwash aggradation, give rise to a deep
lacustrine basin over decades or centuries.
5. Implications for the Ramson Cliff Erratic
The composite dam model has a
direct and important consequence for the debate over the Ramson Cliff erratic.
If a 30 m lake can be explained by a modest ice lobe at the estuary mouth,
supplemented by outwash aggradation and laterally confined by pre-existing
topography, then the lake level tells us nothing about the height, thickness,
or lateral extent of ice on the open coast to the west.
The Ramson Cliff erratic sits
at approximately 80 m OD on Baggy Point, a fully exposed coastal headland
several kilometres west of the Taw estuary. Its petrography — an altered
epidiorite or greenstone of approximately 700 kg — has been re-examined by Daw,
Ixer & Madgett (2026),[13] who argue that it aligns
with local Cornubian or Dartmoor sources rather than distant Irish Sea
material. But even setting aside the provenance question, the erratic at 80 m
OD is not explained by a composite dam at 30 m in the valley below.
The argument that ‘the ice must
have been higher than the lake’ is true in a trivial sense — the ice surface at
the dam must exceed the water surface, or the lake drains. But the dam was at
the estuary mouth, in a topographically constricted setting. The ice there
could have been 35 m thick (to maintain a few metres of freeboard above a 30 m
lake) without extending laterally at that thickness along 10 km of open
coastline to reach Baggy Point at 80 m. These are geometrically and physically
distinct situations. A lobate ice margin blocking an estuary is not a uniform
ice sheet overriding a headland.
The Ramson Cliff erratic
therefore remains isolated and anomalous: well above both the reconstructed
lake level and the ~55 m Bickington–Hele ridge, with no supporting suite of
high-level deposits, striae, or erratics along the intervening coast. Whatever
mechanism emplaced it, the Fremington lake level provides no evidence for that
mechanism.
6. Discussion: Separating Dam Height from Ice Extent
The confusion at the heart of
the ice-dam height argument is a failure to distinguish between two very
different physical situations: the height of a composite barrier at a
topographically constricted point, and the regional extent and thickness of an
ice mass across open terrain.
In every modern analogue
considered here — New Zealand, Svalbard, Patagonia — the dam height at the
constriction point exceeds the ice thickness by a substantial margin because of
sediment aggradation. The ice does not need to be thick everywhere, or present
everywhere, or even the dominant component of the dam. It needs to provide a
nucleus around which sediment accumulates. This is particularly true in
high-sediment-load systems like periglacial braided rivers, where outwash fan
construction is rapid and volumetrically significant.
The Fremington case is a
near-ideal candidate for composite damming. The Taw–Torridge system drains a
periglacial hinterland with prodigious sediment supply. The estuary mouth is a
topographic constriction. The sedimentary record preserves a classic fining-upward
proglacial sequence consistent with progressive dam growth. And the absence of
a discrete moraine at the dam site is exactly what the New Zealand model
predicts: in high-sediment-load settings, moraines are subdued or buried, and
the dam is the outwash mass itself.
None of this denies the
presence of Irish Sea ice in Barnstaple Bay. A composite dam still requires an
ice nucleus. What it denies is the extrapolation from local dam height to
regional ice extent. A 30 m lake in the Taw valley is consistent with a modest,
topographically controlled ice lobe, not with a thick onshore ice sheet capable
of overriding headlands at 80 m.
7. Conclusion
The Fremington Clay records a
proglacial lake at approximately 30 m OD in the Taw–Torridge valley. The
barrier that impounded this lake need not have been a monolithic wall of ice.
Modern analogues from New Zealand, Svalbard, and Patagonia demonstrate that
composite ice-sediment dams are the norm in high-sediment-load proglacial
settings, and that effective dam heights routinely exceed the thickness of the
ice component. Applied to the Taw estuary, a modest Irish Sea ice lobe
supplemented by rapid outwash fan-head aggradation from periglacial rivers
provides a sufficient and parsimonious explanation for the lake level.
Dam height in the valley and
the lateral extent of onshore ice are separate questions with separate answers.
The Fremington lake level does not require extensive glaciation of the North
Devon coast, and it does not explain the Ramson Cliff erratic at 80 m OD on
Baggy Point. That erratic remains an isolated outlier demanding its own
explanation — an explanation that the composite dam model, applied properly,
neither provides nor requires.
The story advances through
careful scrutiny of the rocks, the topography, and the modern analogues — not
through assumptions about uniform ice dams.[14]
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[2]Croot, D.G., Gilbert, A.,
Griffiths, J. & van der Meer, J.J. (1996). The character, age and
depositional environments of the Fremington Clay Series, North Devon. Quaternary
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[3]Bennett, J.A., Cullingford,
R.A., Gibbard, P.L., Hughes, P.D. & Murton, J.B. (2024). The Quaternary
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the Southern Alps, New Zealand. Quaternary Science Reviews 213: 67–92.
[6]Sutherland, J.L.,
Carrivick, J.L., Shulmeister, J., Quincey, D.J. & James, W.H.M. (2022). A
model of ice-marginal sediment-landform development at Lake Tekapo, Southern
Alps, New Zealand. Geografiska Annaler: Series A 104(3): 182–209.
[7]Shulmeister, J., Thackray,
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Reviews 213: 44–66.
[8]Strzelecki, M.C., Long,
A.J. & Lloyd, J.M. (2017). Rise and fall of a small ice-dammed lake — Role
of deglaciation processes and morphology. Geomorphology 295: 228–243.
[9]Carrivick, J.L. &
Tweed, F.S. (2013). Proglacial lakes: character, behaviour and geological
importance. Quaternary Science Reviews 78: 34–52.
[10]Carrivick, J.L.,
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and Planetary Change 211: 103792.
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